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Time: 10:00 AM Eastern US (contact MichaelFiedler if you'd like to participate)

The Automation meetings alternate times each meeting to accomodate the global team.

Agenda

* Reoccurring agenda items:

* Main agenda items:
  • Main page cleanup: AutomationHome
  • Draft Spec discussion: AutoSpecificationV1
    • Overview of where things are currently at
    • Resource relationship diagram
    • Environment/Parameter attribute representation
    • Result Contribution attribute representation
    • Do the proposed V1 artifacts satisfy the V1 scenarios?
  • Additional workgroup members interested in participating in spec authoring
  • Next meetings:
    • 12 January

Minutes

Attending: Michael Fiedler, Pramod Chandoria, Rich Rakich, Pete Steinfeld, Max Vohlken, Louis Paul, Paul McMahan? , Dave Brauneis, Scarlett Li, Charles Rankin, Dan Berg, John Arwe, Sheehan Anderson, Srimanth Gunturi

  • Review of Dev Ops and Deployment discussion from AutomationMeetings20111208
    • Request to not consider the scenario closed until colleagues still on holiday return
    • Identified a need for an Appendix to provide guidance on items not explicitly addressed by the specification, but which require consideration when implementing service providers and clients
      • Environment tear-down considerations - differing requirements drive needs to tear down quickly or retain
      • Retention of automation results - depending on scenarios, some may require long-term persistence for audit or problem re-create
      • In composite or orchestrated automations, the dependencies between results and requirements for persistence could require planning
  • Review of AutomationHome
    • No major comments. Confirmed intention is to address all scenarios in a single specification.
  • Start of review of AutoSpecificationV1
    • Covered resource/relationship diagram
      • Clarification on the concept of template Automation Plans (cf. Deployment and Dev Ops scenarios).
      • Agreement that template Automation Plans are Automation Plans which exist to be cloned and customized, but never run.
        • Can still be exposed by OSLC, but never expected to have requests or results.
        • Can contain partial specification of input parameters which are further specified/customized when cloned and when Automation Requests created.
      • Discussion on relationship between Results, Requests and Plans
        • Re-visited the topic of Request persistence. Confirmed some providers will have very transient Request artifacts
        • Confirmed the correct ReportsOn? (name could change) relationship is Results -> Plans. "Users" want to see all/filtered results for a plan.
        • Result -> Plan direction of the relationship allows for scalability - no Plans with 000s of links to results. Use OSLC query to find Results of interest.
    • Started to review attributes
      • Main topic was the parameter attribute
        • Discussion on how V1 spec will allow for "any" remote or inlined parameter structure - format not specified in V1. Requires consumer to understand parameter structure to some extent.
        • Possible need for separate input and output parameters. What are the roles of parameters as we move from Plan->Request->Result.
        • Is there a need to add parameters as things progress? For use by downstream automations? Consensus seems to be yes - this can clarify what parameters are to be used/were used in each stage.
        • TODO: Continue the discussion. MichaelFiedler will start a discussion on the mailing list

  • Next meeting: 12 January at 1PM Eastern US time.
Topic revision: r2 - 06 Jan 2012 - 01:58:59 - MichaelFiedler
 
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