[oslc-core] Usage of LD patch format for OSLC

Steve K Speicher sspeiche at us.ibm.com
Wed Sep 24 16:41:34 EDT 2014


(Sending to both OASIS TC and open-services.net Core groups for awareness)

I have updated the document [1] I have started some time ago regarding a 
patch document format and model for use within OSLC Core WG to include the 
recent LD Patch Format [2].  Feel free to weigh in with any additional 
feedback to me.

[1]: http://open-services.net/wiki/core/OSLC-Core-Partial-Update/
[2]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-ldpatch-20140918/

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steve Speicher <sspeiche at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: LD Patch review
To: "public-ldp-wg at w3.org" <public-ldp-wg at w3.org>


Hey Alexandre,

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Alexandre Bertails
<alexandre at bertails.org> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Pierre-Antoine, Andrei, and I talked this morning about your comments.
> Andrei is now addressing them in the specification.
>
> As for playing with LD Patch itself, I have that ready [1] for a
> release. It will probably happen on Friday. I will provide you with
> informations re: Maven configuration.
>
> It's only building for Jena for now, but I can do Sesame if you prefer.

Jena should be fine.

I have also applied (thanks to your offline help) an update to some
samples I had done for OSLC [1] using the LD Patch format.  Looks as
if would meet our cases.  Will investigate a bit more some possible
improvements.

- Steve

[1]: http://open-services.net/wiki/core/OSLC-Core-Partial-Update/

> Alexandre
>
> [1] 
https://github.com/w3c/banana-rdf/blob/topic/ldpatch/ldpatch/src/test/java/JenaPatchDemo.java

>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Steve Speicher <sspeiche at gmail.com> 
wrote:
>> Really glad to see we are progressing on patch.
>>
>> Here are some comments on: 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-ldpatch-20140918/
>>
>> I have split my comments into 2 major categories: first the more
>> substantial comments and second of the typo variety.  I plan to walk
>> through a few of my data model in a bit more detail.  Any working
>> software that you have that I could experiment with would be helpful
>> as well (my searches couldn't turn it up).
>>
>> <#operational-semantics>
>> I would have liked to have this as Section 2.  It had been long enough
>> ago that I had forgotten these details.  Since section 5 is nice and
>> short, I believe it would help the reader with any questions such as
>> "what happens when one thing fails".
>>
>> <#path-expression>
>> The example feels incomplete.  It also doesn't match the previous 
example.
>>
>> I would have expected this to walk through the path expression
>> algorithm step by step, starting with showing the path expression (as
>> you have) and then point out where in the graph it is with each step
>> (perhaps even with a diagram highlighting the current node).  This
>> would  be helpful with each expression type.
>>
>> <#UpdateList>
>> Find definition fairly vague.  For example 9, if updating the 2nd
>> entry in the array why not use the slice range of 1..1?  Would I get a
>> different result?  Isn't example 11 the same as example 9, if used
>> start-index of 1 instead? For example 11, it would be better to have a
>> more useful example the aligns with the sample data you are using
>> (list of only 2 items).
>>
>> I'm not sure what this means "To insert new values between two
>> members, one can set a non empty list to the empty slice comprised
>> between those two members."  Empty slice?
>> I wouldn't know if I successfully implemented "insert".
>>
>> 
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>> Simple grammer and typo problems:
>>
>> s/numver/number/
>>
>> <#prefixes>
>> Seems like there should be a normative reference to namespaces (either
>> RDF concepts and/or XML).
>>
>> <#node-matching-semantics>
>> s/borrows much of its syntax to/borrows much of its syntax from/
>>
>> s/As a consequence, whenever a blank node identifiers/As a
>> consequence, whenever blank node identifiers/
>>
>> s/adress/address/
>>
>> <#pathological-graph>
>> Linked Data or linked data, seem to go back and forward between the 
two.
>>
>> <#bind>
>> "subsequent Bound statements" I believe this should be "subsequent
>> Bind statements"
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>>

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