[oslc-core] Rethinking link labels without reified statements

[Steve K Speicher]

I've been keeping an eye on the RDF WG and meet somewhat regularly with a 
rep in the WG on the activity.  I will work with them and the RDF WG on 
our scenario with "link labels".  I don't see a way that the RDF WG could 
remove blank nodes and rdf:* terms which is all that we depend on.  How we 
use them together may require some guidance with an OSLC spec, which we 
have already within our Appendix C on Link Guidance. 

As we discussed on the WG call today (June 27), it is pretty safe to 
consider this not an issue and continue down the path we are going.

Thanks,
Steve Speicher | IBM Rational Software | (919) 254-0645

> From: John Arwe/Poughkeepsie/IBM at IBMUS
> To: oslc-core at open-services.net, 
> Date: 06/27/2012 01:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [oslc-core] Rethinking link labels without reified 
statements
> Sent by: oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net
> 
> Who is responsible for working with the W3C RDF WG to produce an 
RDF.next 
> with some in-scope way to accomplish the goal? 
> 
> Put another way, if that WG removes reification from the next version of 

> RDF, and no alternative in .next works, it sounds like our choices are 
to 
> (1) remove link labels and other cases currently using reification from 
> future specifications/iterations of existing specs (presumably becomes 
> implementation extension), 
> (2) take a risk in every implementation to continue using reification as 
today, or 
> (3) invent-new within OSLC 
> ...and potentially in parallel with any of those 3, engage with the W3C 
RDF 
> WG to fill the gap with something concrete. 
> Is this something that we should be asking for help from the Steering 
> Committee on, if the W3C WG does not put something into RDF.next at Last 

> Call?  Presumably if the community as a whole (proxied via the SC) were 
to 
> ask the W3C for help, that would carry more weight than individual 
members doing so. 
> Best Regards, John
> 
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> 
> oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net wrote on 06/26/2012 02:28:53 PM:
> 
> > From: Steve K Speicher/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS 
> > To: oslc-core at open-services.net 
> > Date: 06/26/2012 02:34 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [oslc-core] Rethinking link labels without reified 
statements 
> > Sent by: oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net 
> > 
> > Based on review on the mailing list and at last Core WG call, I 
consider 
> > this to be closed with no changes.  Just summarizing with the 
following 
> > observation:
> > 
> > 1. We are not using anything that is really being scoped out of the 
new 
> > work by W3C RDF WG, for example we only use rdf:* class/predicates and 

> > blank nodes. 
> > 2. There really isn't an acceptable alternative.  Alternatives require 
us 
> > to reach a similar conclusion to what is defined using reification.
> > 
> > I will continue to track RDF WG activity with reification with this 
usage 
> > in mind.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Steve Speicher | IBM Rational Software | (919) 
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