[oslc-core] Question on UI Preview - data refresh

Andrew J Berner ajberner at us.ibm.com
Mon May 17 12:38:29 EDT 2010


Ian Green wrote:

> > If the "improvement" to the link display is interpreted by a consumer
> > implementer as "update the persisted representation of the provider's
> > resource" then data may leak outside of the provider's security model.

and Scott Bosworth replied:

>....The excerpted text talks about using
> these properties "to improve and replace the default link display"
> and does not reference anything about updating a persisted
> representation of the resource.

This confuses me....I think I understand Ian's original concern about
"leaking" outside the provider's security model is that when I "got" the
resource from the provider, maybe I could see the title, but not the
description (because the description had details that I'm not privileged to
see, for example).

But is this then saying that the "hover" could contain that information,
and isn't filtered by the same security rules?  And that's ok as long as
the hover info isn't persisted?

Andy Berner
Lead Architect, ISV Technical Enablement and Strategy
IBM Rational Business Development
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ajberner at us.ibm.com

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  |Scott Bosworth/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS                                                                                                                  |
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  |oslc-core at open-services.net                                                                                                                       |
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  |05/17/2010 09:23 AM                                                                                                                               |
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  |oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net                                                                                                               |
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Hi Scott,

How about something to the effect -

"the compact rendering SHOULD NOT be used to refresh the locally stored
information about a remote resource"

best wishes,
    -ian

ian.green at uk.ibm.com (Ian Green1/UK/IBM at IBMGB)
Chief Software Architect, Requirements Definition and Management
IBM Rational

oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net wrote on 17/05/2010 14:17:51:

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> Re: [oslc-core] Question on UI Preview - data refresh
>
> Scott Bosworth
>
> to:
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> oslc-core
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> 17/05/2010 14:18
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> Sent by:
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> oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net
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> Hi Ian. The excerpt you quote is out of the section that is giving
> guidance to the consumer on how they should use the Compact
> representation information to form the hyperlink (and potentially a
> hover) to be displayed to the end user. The section suggests that
> rather than forming the hyperlink text from local data, the consumer
> can use the dc:title, dc:name, or oslc:icon values from the Compact
> representation, which are presumed to have "better" information
> about the referenced resource. The excerpted text talks about using
> these properties "to improve and replace the default link display"
> and does not reference anything about updating a persisted
> representation of the resource.
>
> Is there a wording choice that is throwing you off here? Suggestions
> as to how to improve that wording?
>
> Thanks...Scott
>
>
> Scott Bosworth | IBM Rational CTO Team | bosworth at us.ibm.com | 919.
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> oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net wrote on 05/17/2010 08:53:42 AM:
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> > [oslc-core] Question on UI Preview - data refresh
> >
> > Ian Green1
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> > to:
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> > oslc-core
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> > 05/17/2010 08:53 AM
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> > Sent by:
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> > oslc-core-bounces at open-services.net
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> > I've raised an issue on the UP Preview spec. at [1].
> >
> > My concern is over this excerpt:
> >
> > If this becomes known to the Consumer, the Consumer SHOULD assume that

> > this information is better and use it to improve and replace the
default
> > link display.
> >
> > If the "improvement" to the link display is interpreted by a consumer
> > implementer as "update the persisted representation of the provider's
> > resource" then data may leak outside of the provider's security model.

> > Have I misinterpreted the specification?
> >
> > My thinking is that the responsibilities of the UI Preview
specification
> > should be limited to UI Preview, and not to "refresh" of persisted
data.
> >
> > best wishes,
> >     -ian
> >
> > ian.green at uk.ibm.com (Ian Green1/UK/IBM at IBMGB)
> > Chief Software Architect, Requirements Definition and Management
> > IBM Rational
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