[Oslc-Automation] Optional property proposal: Progress Indication

[Martin P Pain]

Hi Rupert,

Thank you for your suggestion and feedback. 

I will bring both of these points up at the next working group meeting.

The development of the next version of the specification (and future 
evolution of the vocabulary) has moved to a Technical Committee at OASIS, 
so I expect the suggestion for the progress indication will need to be 
moved there to be considered.

As for the complexity of version 2.1, that is something we want to take 
into account. Which area do you think complicates it the most? The list 
below might help.

In my mind version 2.0 of the spec covered:
1. How to find Automation Plans given a Service Provider URL/resource 
(selection dialog/query capability)
2. How to request execution of an Automation Plan

v2.1 added some more major areas and some minor ones too.
The major one being:
3. How to find an Automation Plan given an arbitrary resource on which the 
Plans act (Actions)

And the minor ones being:
4. Finding out, before executing a Plan A, what Plan B is related to a 
resource that is created by Plan A. ("Future actions")
5. Deferred execution
6. Execution environment (very small change)

It would help us if you could indicate, from this list (or from your own 
understanding) what area of the spec adds most complexity to v2.1.

Thank you very much agains for your feedback,

Martin Pain
Software Developer - Green Hat
Rational Test Virtualization Server, Rational Test Control Panel
OASIS Open Services for Lifecycle Collaboration - Automation technical 
committee chair

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"Oslc-Automation" <oslc-automation-bounces at open-services.net> wrote on 
09/05/2014 18:29:45:

> From: Schlick Rupert <Rupert.Schlick at ait.ac.at>
> To: "oslc-automation at open-services.net" 
<oslc-automation at open-services.net>, 
> Date: 09/05/2014 18:30
> Subject: [Oslc-Automation] Optional property proposal: Progress 
Indication
> Sent by: "Oslc-Automation" <oslc-automation-bounces at open-services.net>
> 
> Dear Automation Workgroup,
> 
> while working on implementing automation providers, we came up with 
> the idea of giving a progress indication for asynchronous execution 
> (while in state inProgress). This could be done by giving a 
> completion percentage or an “estimated time of arrival”. For an 
> automation consumer, it might be interesting to get that information
> and in my view, it would make sense to have this standardized as 
> optional, but predefined  fields.
> 
> Sorry for barging in like that – if there is a better place to drop 
> feedback/ideas from “specification users”, please advise me. We are 
> working on some tools acting as automation providers, but I’m not in
> a position to join the workgroup as a contributing member.
> 
> As feedback to your excellent work on the specs:
> From “outside” the 2.1 draft looks very good, but gets increasingly 
> harder to grasp.
> 
> I’m a bit concerned that both the automation specification and OSLC 
> as a whole is growing at a speed and in a form, where the original 
> goal of simplicity and sticking to what is necessary for or needed 
> by most applications, is not fulfilled anymore. (Although I admit it
> is paradox to state that in an email where I’m actually asking for 
> additional features).
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Rupert Schlick
> 
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