[Oslc-Automation] Availability Spec review - were all the previous comments covered?
Martin P Pain
martinpain at uk.ibm.com
Wed Jul 9 10:41:34 EDT 2014
Most of the comments were in theperiod running up to this meeting:
http://open-services.net/wiki/automation/AutomationMeetings20140515/
The main comment in the minutes from that meeting about this was "We
agreed to do scenario-driven bottom-up design, only adding terms that are
needed by scenarios. ". I think there are still some items in the spec
that could come out as they're not required for some of the scenarios. (If
there are any predicates/properties that you think would be useful, but
aren't needed for the scenarios, then just list these somewhere - perhaps
in an appendix of the spec (for now) or - better - just on the wiki page.
Putting them in the spec will cause more work, as we have to ask 'how do
consumers know how to use it'. Then we can decide what to do with them
separately.)
You can verify what's needed by the scenarios by writing out how a
consumer (& provider) uses the data for each of the scenarios, and ticking
off each property in the spec as it's used. perhaps even linking from the
spec, saying "See an example of how this is used in the X scenario"
(although we don't do that elsewhere).
(Even if all the predicates still i there are really needed, having this
information about how they're used would help us as reviewers see that
they're needed.)
I think all the comments from the mailing list should be here:
http://open-services.net/pipermail/oslc-automation_open-services.net/2014-May/
It does look like you've addressed most of my ones, but I can't speak for
John.
From
http://open-services.net/pipermail/oslc-automation_open-services.net/2014-May/000743.html:
"You don't have any text about achieving any of those scenarios..."
You do seem to have addressed this to some degree in the section "Updating
the condition of an AvailabilityResource", but it's still not enough for a
client to programatically start or stop the resource. (The client checks
the current state, it doesn't match what they want, so they follow
oslc:action and... can they expect just one action there? What if there
are many? Even if there's one action they don't know if it's an action to
start the resource, or to delete the resource or change its redundancy
level, make it the primary resource, etc, etc. Even if it's a single
action to do all of them, they don't know how to use its parameters to
configure it to do one over the other.)
I don't have time to look over more of those comments right now to pick
out any that were completely missed.
Martin Pain
Software Developer - Green Hat
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OASIS Open Services for Lifecycle Collaboration - Automation technical
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"Oslc-Automation" <oslc-automation-bounces at open-services.net> wrote on
08/07/2014 16:06:18:
> From: Tim Friessinger <TFRIESS at de.ibm.com>
> To: oslc-automation at open-services.net,
> Date: 08/07/2014 16:07
> Subject: Re: [Oslc-Automation] Oslc-Automation Digest, Vol 41, Issue 4
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> Hello Martin,
> hello John & rest of the team!
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> Thanks for you comments and sorry if I've missed some of the previous
> comments. I have searched my old mails for your old comments, but maybe
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> missed one.
> Of course I don't want to waste your time your time with doing things
> twice. If that already happened, I'm very sorry!
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> I'll be out of office for the rest of the week, but on my return I'll
> search for the old comments and of course work through the new ones.
>
> Thanks again!
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> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards
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> Tim Friessinger
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